Torment Dungeons: FF4: The Dark Mage (12th Sep 2017)

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  1. Zodiac

    Zodiac March VIP 2017

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    The boss: Golbez and Black Dragon
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    The malevolent fiends
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    Complete The Dark Mage, Part 1 dungeon to get Empowered Bard motes
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    Complete The Dark Mage, Part 3 dungeon to get 5* motes
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  2. Hibernis

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    Bard motes.

    I believe they were highly expected motes. Am I wrong?
     
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    Yes, because Allegro con Moto grants magic quickcast x3. This essentially opens up mage meta for anybody who hasn't lucked out and pulled Papalymo's hastega - or, if you're like me and pulled that AND Krile's hastega, it means you're no longer hamstrung to just one option and you can stack major regen!
     
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    D200 5-Man CM

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    Soul Breaks Used:
    RW: Wall
    Paladin Cecil: OSB
    Golbez: Nothing
    Rydia: BSB
    Edward: Song of Swiftness
    Rosa: Divine Heal
     
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    Is anyone else really sick of the continued lean toward speed meta? This CM has gotten to the point where I have no choice but to take it as fast as possible, and it makes playing really stressful. There's a problem when the game's slowest ATB speed still feels like it's rushing me. I really hate this new emphasis on speed over strategy. Nothing about this is old-school FF at all, certainly not FFIV.
     
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    D250 Mastered Clear (Full run, no Hit-and-Run used)



    Jump Start Mastered Clear



    Jump Start Mastered Clear (3-man Cid Mission)

     
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    Eeth Dedicated Warrior

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    D200 CM team

    Edgar Unique SB (Protectga+Regen)
    Pecil BSB+USB
    Palom/Porom SSB (no idea who's who lol, the WHM)
    Golbez BSB
    Edge SSB

    Tried with differents RW, VoF but I lacked def/res, wall but the dps was too low and the snake was doing his 10 turns move, had to use Cloud USB, charge Pecil SB bars and then spam BSB/USB focusing dmg on him first.

    Golbez magic hits like a truck (3k-4k) and I couldn't skip turns to bring up Shellga again, thank God for Enkidu's magicite.

    Edit: 300 CM done, scary stuff. Never again lol.
     

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    I will be attempting the D200 cm in a few hours during my lunch break.

    My plan:
    Rosa SSB for medica and Mblink
    Palom (? the female one) SSB for additional medica
    Edge SSB ebland doppleganger for Pblink and haste
    Edgar BSB for imperil and boostga
    Pecil with BSB1 for damage
    Cloud USB for RW.

    For D200 this should work even without crit boosting, but we shall see.
     
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    D200 Non CM :


    D250 :


    D300 CM 3 :
     
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    Golbez & Shadow Dragon (D300)
    Cid Mission (3)
    No Wall, Ibrid team

     
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    @robaisolken was right, the real OP IV relic is Edge ssb. Never thought I could master JS 3CM, but I managed to clear it with Pecil, Ramza, Agrias, Edge and a lvl 22 Rosa :p LS and all the blinks kept Pecil and Agrias long enough alive to finish it :D
     
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    Yeah, so this was a complete and utter fail.
    Pecil had 500 atk before buffs, and with 1 boostga, 1 imperil, 2 pieces of holy boosting gear didn't break damage cap under cloud usb on entry and only 12k per hit under en-holy. Biggest problem was the amount of damage I was getting. Without wall if a spell hit someone who wasn't on full health, it was an instagib
     
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    I'm finding this D200 CM pretty brutal. I'm determined not to resort to Cloud USB RW since that seems like giving up, but I just don't have enough firepower otherwise. I managed a setup to take down Shadow Dragon before he uses black fang, but then I ran out of gas before I could finish off Golbez. Close, but not enough.

    Best team so far:

    L99 Rydia w/ Valigarmanda and Carbuncle
    L80 Cid with lightning imperil, lifesiphon and R3 Tempest Snipe
    L80 Rubicante with fire imperil, meltdown and chain firaga
    L99 Golbez with BSB, chain thundaga and Meteor for trash mobs.
    L99 Rosa with Protectga, Wrath and USB


    UPDATE: Ok, I managed to champion D200 with a CM team.

    L99 Pecil with BSB1 (En-Holy) and BSB2 (Sentinel and damage)
    L80 Cid with Imperil Lightning SB, MBD and Tempest Snipe
    L99 Rydia with BSB, Valigarmanda and Carbuncle
    L99 Golbez with BSB, Meteor and Chain Thundaga
    L99 Rosa with USB
    VotF RW

    Got Protectga, Shellga and VotF up just before round 5 started.

    Start with Cid Imperil Lightning and Rydia Carbuncle. Then focus all attacks on Shadow Dragon. Save Golbez and Rydia BSBs for when abilities run out.

    Shadow Dragon goes down, then whittle down Golbez while keeping up occasional mitigation and Rosa USB for heal and mblink. Her SSB probably would have been enough.

    I underestimated how useful Cid and Tempest Snipe would be in this fight.

    Ultimately, my cost to win this CM was the orbs to create and hone Valigarmanda R2, hone Tempest Snipe to R3, and I think I used some motes on Cid to make him a little tougher.

    Fun, but very frustrating fight. I agree that the speed meta is hard to adjust to, but then again, it should be pointed out that these are Torment dungeons after all. The only reason they aren't seen as the toughest content available is because we just got the Magicite dungeons. If the devs want to give us hard content to satisfy the whales, then the Torment dungeons are a valid place to do it. Just so long as this nonsense doesn't start creeping into regular boss fights too.
     
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    Just... Pause?


    Anyway I have no medica for this realm so I had to egg Fusoya so I could bring two healers to the fight. My team:

    RW: Wall
    Pecil (BSB1 + OSB)
    Golbez (BSB)
    Fusoya (Nothing, although his default is AoE Regen. Not worthless)
    Rosa (Nothing)
    Edward (Hastega unique)

    Took me a few S/L but I did it.
    Now for D300 I think I'm looking at a 1 man CM only... No way I can fit any more IV units to my strategy.
     
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    Meh, this D200CM is almost impossible to master without paladin Cecil and his bsbs/usb/osb. I tried different setups using Kain as my main dps but I was able to kill Shadow Dragon before he used black fang only once: then buffs and debuffs wore off and golbez killed me :/

    And I'm also struggling with D250: I realized that I have only Agrias' bsb and Firion's enholy ssb (but I don't use him, he's only level 80 lol), so I have to use Cloud's Usb as RW, but damage is not enough and shadow Dragon can use black fang. Damn, it's so frustrating xD
     
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    This was harder than the previous ones, at least for me. But managed to Master all 3, CMs included.

    D200 CM
    Edward (99): Enveloping Etude, Magic Breakdown, BSB, Mogs Teachings
    Rosa (80): Wrath, Curaja, SSB (Mblink), Ace Striker
    Palom (80): Protectga, Ultra Cure, SSB (Hastega), Battleforged
    Golbez (99): Meltdown R3, Meteor R3, BSB, Knights Charge
    Pecil (99): LS, Saints Cross, BSB1, Mako Might
    RW Cloud Keeper

    D250 (all 99) - I was 1 attack away from killing the dragon when he KOd Tyro, no other medals lost and still mastered.
    Tyro: MB, HFS, Wall, Mako Might
    Y'sthola (LD): Protectga, Ultra Cure, BSB, Mogs Teachings
    OK: Shellga, Wrath, BSB, Ace Striker
    Raines (LD): Wrath, Ruinaga, BSB, Battleforged
    Golbez: Meltdown, Meteor, BSB, Knights Charge
    RW Ramza USB

    D300 / 3 man CM, only listing abilities used
    Edward: Enveloping Etude, MBD, BSB, Gathering Storm
    Rosa: Curada R1, Curaja, SSB (Mblink), Healer's Prayer
    Pecil: BSB, Truthseeker
    OK: FB, Shellga, BSB, Into the Fray
    Ramza: Armor BD, Banishing Strike, SSB Chant, Knightx2
    RW Cloud Keeper
     
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    D200 CM team: I SnL ALOT last night to make this team work. It was a tricky balance fitting magic break, Protectga/Shellga, haste, healing, and DPS. I finally settled on haste and Shellga giving up a heal and Protectga... The race against black fang KO was obnoxious. I was very pleased to complete this CM with one of my weakest realms.

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    Rosa's Divine Heal and wrath was great, Tellah's Last Gasp is cool to use with CT0 and Magic/Attack increase, Rydia OSB was tailored for holy weakness :) Squall BSB2 and Cloud USB is broken, and Tyro supports with Wall, BSB and Angel Song/multi break. JS are definitely the easiest of the three challenges :p

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    I found this D200 CM to be pretty hard, the D250 to be even harder, but the D300 to be laughably easy I didn't even come close to dying.
     
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    Even with P. Cecil's USB and Rydia's OSB, this D200 CM is damn tough for me. I decided that the measly two lightning crystals weren't worth it. Is there even anything worth honing that requires lightning crystals? The only thing I can think of is Valigarmanda, and I already have enough to hone that to R3 (honing it beyond that seems pretty silly) if I want.

    Mastered the D300 3-man, though, because 5* Spirit Motes seem WAAAAAAAY more useful! That's another half-dived mage, right there, if you have the Wisdom Motes. Will post pics later, because Internet is being way too finnicky to bother uploading right now. Basically, Pecil USB, Rysia OSB, and Rosa BSB (there was almost no need for healing in this fight, esp. with Enkidu...) plus Raines BSB/OSB turned this into a total joke. How funny that the D300 is so much easier than the D200...

    Not really sure how pausing is at all useful or helpful, since the issue is that you don't have time to press commands quickly enough, not that you can't decide fast enough...even when I press skip, I feel like I lose too much ATB at once. Still, congrats on the mastery!
     
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    D300 3-man CM done, championed.

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    Pecil BSB
    Orlandeau OSB
    Beatrix BSB
    Cid SSB (Lightning Imperil)
    Rosa USB

    Cid was there for the CM, to break Golbez's magic for mastery, and to help with DPS. Pretty sure Orlandeau's OSB was using holy dmg and not lightning, so Cid was the only one taking advantage of his imperil via Tempest Snipe. I had no reason to hone that past R1 until this fight, but with full imperil he was doing 13K or more per turn, not an insignificant amount in a jump start battle with limited soul break usage.
     
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